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The 5 Count Method

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I want to remind everyone that no matter what method of play or "System" you try; you cannot change the house advantage. These are fixed number based on the dice probabilities. Some money management strategies and methods of play will help you reduce your overall exposure to the house edge. Last week Larry Edell wrote about Hedging Your Bet to squeak out small wins during a playing session. This week I will introduce you to another method that will help you reduce your exposure to the house edge enabling while spending more time at the table. It is called the 5-Count.

In his book, Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos, Author Frank Scoblete writes about the 5 Count system of play taught to him by his friend "The Captain." I asked Frank to explain the system for this article:

"If you incorporate the Captain's 5-Count as a part of your betting strategy, you will reduce the total number of shooters you are betting on and increase the likelihood that over the course of your session you will be on the hot shooter(s) -- if a hot shooter actually appears. Although all the nuances of the 5-Count method of play are contained in my books and tapes here in a nutshell is a mini-lesson in its use.

The 5-Count, the Captain's method for finding hot shooters and reducing a player's overall risk at the craps table, starts with a point number (the "point numbers" are 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, or 10) and ends with a point number. Let's take it step by step.

The shooter has just received the dice and is on his come-out roll. If he rolls any of the point numbers above on his come-out roll, that constitutes the 1-count. If he rolls a 2, 3, 7, 11, or 12 on the come-out, the count has not started yet. The second roll after the 1-count is automatically the 2-count, regardless of what number is rolled, and this applies to the 3-count and 4-count as well. The next roll after the 4-count is the 5-Count only if the number rolled is again one of the point numbers above. If not, it is the 4-count and holding until the 5-Count is achieved. When the 5-Count is achieved, you then begin to place money at risk. The 5-Count is a major component of the Captain's systems such as the Classical and Radical Supersystems, the high-roller system, and the low-roller system. For a detailed explanation of how and why the 5-Count works and how to play it successfully in a casino, I refer you to my books and tapes."

During Easter weekend, I had the chance to join Frank at the craps table at Binions in downtown Las Vegas. I have used the 5-count system in the past and decided that this session I would play it exactly like Frank describes.

We settled in to a five-dollar table and started to play. I rolled first and made one number before the dreaded seven hit. Frank did not have much better results. The table was fairly cold. By the time the dice got back to me I took a quick survey of my chips in the rack I was only down about $50. I would have been down a lot more had I not been using the 5-count. I took the dice for my second turn. I made my first point and hit a couple numbers before sevening out .No gain no loss: I was even for my roll.

Frank took his second turn with the dice and proceeded to have an epic roll. He held the dice for over 40 minutes. You can read the full details of his roll in an upcoming Casino Player article. This is the type of hot shooter you are looking for with the 5-count. I came out with a nice win for the session.

Not all sessions will have hot shooters. I have had experiences where as soon as the 5-count was established I placed a number or made a come bet and the shooter sevened out on his next roll. However, I did find that when using the system I was spending more time at the table receiving COMP credit while actually risking less of my money by NOT betting on every shooter. When that hot shooter did come along I had money left to take advantage of the roll.Why not give the 5-Count a try next time you visit the tables.



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